3-Day Workshop With Hyper and Berretta on May13-15, Review by masp797/The Fisherman
The workshop started at the NY pizza shop notorious for the beginning of the Brad P program. I was the first one there and met Hyper, followed by the other guys and Berretta/Chris who joined us for the workshop, definitely cool dudes to work with and hang with during the WS. Did some intro stuff to get to know each other, then I virtually never go out to clubs/bars and most of my approaches had been daygame type stuff so I was a bit worried going in that I might learn
Anyway we'll fast forward to Sunday and go from there. Our group met up at Starbucks for the extra 3rd day and each of the students went over what happened in the workshop. Haha it was all a big blur for me when it came my turn due to all the hiatus of the workshop and on little sleep, but as an exercise hyper had me take an hour by myself to write down a list of all the positive things I learned from the workshop.
This is that list. It will also serve as my review.
Friday, skills learned
+smoothed over openers and went over some attraction routines
+tweaked walk and body language. Shoulders back till it hurts, suck chest in, chin up. Walk to a rhythm. With purpose.
+found some free nightlife hotspots
+learned to mirror disinterest whenever a girl shows it, rather than chase and “save the play” which i'd been doing
+learned technique for walking set from Berretta to just walk with them
+didn't let initial blowouts stop me
+learned not to use too many showpieces w/ jacket
+some girls tested me, I handled them ok
+didn't let sudden boyfriends break my rhythm. That happened a few times
+experienced my first time in NY nightlife
+saw good examples of frame control from the coaches. So was their frame control, most if not all girls would be totally focused on them. I think in one set, hyper and a girl were talking. In another set, I watched berretta/chris vibe very well with a group of 3 that I didn't do too well on a few minutes ago, but that was so useful as I got to see the things they had taught me in action. Especially of interest was watching subtle body language adjustments, voice projection, and balancing kino to maintain a level of dominance.
+learned sprinkler eye contact technique
+saw/learned first girlfriend routine
+managed to establish commonalities
+learned/use blogging/text war opener on girls w/ phones
+learned to be aware of stuff like 'floaters' – loners at the bar
+learned to re-open. How? By just doing it.
+learned contingencies for drug dealer
+Saturday
+improved kino, learned how to do opening stages (try stage 1, note how she responds, and wait for attraction signals before stage 2
+learned how to open direct on street (a bit in their face, stopping them, right in their path, body language)
+learned how to reward a girl with kino if she does something I like
+started to build a foundation for connecting/comfort game
+learned to stay in and feel comfortable making normal conversation
+stayed in and learned to get comfortable with awkward pauses and let her put some effort once she's attracted
+worked on being louder/projecting in bars, even if I had to shout a bit
+maximized my chances to learn by approaching and working a lot of sets. Also didn't back down from any set I was sent into. Mixed groups, tall models, big groups because I knew i'd get input on it.
+was more free in expressing myself
+learned to feel comfortable standing alone in a bar
+learned/saw Red Bull routine being used by another student 1 minute after he learned it on a couple next to our group while chilling at starbucks.
+reduced reliance on routines
+used average girls to work my moves and maintain momentum as opposed to being picky + not approaching.
+hyper fixed my belief that talking about myself was not bragging or try hard.
+did a good job of dropping flashy game/complex game and shifting gears into normal mode when recognizing foreigners and their accents and to try more kino stuff (thumb wrestling, etc)
+found out that strangers/groups/sets won't be critical even if I lose a little momentum/make a few “mistakes”
+hyper did a great demo on a seated 6-set. Also watched how he spaced out the kino with a girl next to him and really got to see what it's supposed to look like, always moving forward (shoulder, waist, hair, etc) but just enough to keep her guessing. (Now I'm doing kino right in my interactions and it's grrreat)
+got input on text game. which was to use less game and sabotaging myself by playing too hard to get
+learned that people make way too big a deal of opening regardless of set/beauty/# of people, etc. It's odd because an opener done wrong or uncalibrated can break you, but once you're in set it's only like 2% of the game
+found out espresso from Starbucks is great for emergency late night energy
+practice palm reading a few times having rarely done it before
Extra Thoughts:
+hyper correctly pointed out that I wasn't going in with the intent to bang the girls. Reflecting on it, it also related to the fact that I tended to leave sets whenever something went wrong and both these problems pointed to sexual anxiety. This was big because in the first few months of 30/30 I would be so nervous about even starting and having a 20 min flirty conversation with a hot girl to the point where I forgot to move toward getting laid. So to cure my ejecting problem, I've always tried to remember moving toward sex and channeling my desire, even persisting again with girls who give me a soft blowout if there was lots of attraction.
+In our final 1 on 1 talk together at the end of the workshop, Hyper also told me I needed to become a huge fashion guy and look up guys like Prince. He also suggested Tony Robbins' Get The Edge and Eckhart Tolle's Power of Now. Now I'll be honest, this was probably the biggest letdown because it was super generic advice that could be given to just about anybody (I still applied it and found it useful though!). Also Hyper played a interesting part in sparking the idea for me to move to New York, saying the city was a place for people who had a drive to be elite and successful and I've always felt that hunger to be great since i was a child. I always enjoyed the city every time I came to visit, the smell of street food, the feeling of potential, the constant excitement, the girls ofc, even the losing basketball team! All in all I learned a lot from the workshop that would've taken me months to learn on my own, and uncovered some beliefs that I thought were truths but actually very limiting, ranging from about talking about myself to what reasonable expectations of success should be and why I shouldn't be too hard on myself.
+Like most people, I beat myself up everytime I didn't get something right. The biggest thing I got from the workshop was to focus more on the positives and what I did right day-to-day that I could use in the future rather than always scramble to criticize and correct my mistakes first. They say to always learn from your mistakes, but even learning how to learn from your mistakes is a skill in itself that needs to be developed.
So now I'm here, I hope I'll be successful as my feet haven't stopped moving trying to get to my goals...well except to finish the review since I've been here a few days and am enjoying the hustle so far. Hyper's a great motivator and a person, and actually is a real rockstar, it was a privilege to learn from him. Now that I think about it, he just about answered every question I asked him about game, including telling me to cut down on it much more which was the correct answer, even though I'd thought the problem was somewhere else totally. i'd become too reliant on routines and game and not on my identity, he said I was using the routines to 'hide myself' which kept me from connecting with the girl, which was a flaw in my game i'd totally overlooked. Berretta was an exciting and smart guy too, and he taught me a ton of technical stuff about body language,voice projection, positioning, etc. that I definitely didn't notice on my own until he pointed them out and I saw them game in real-time, definitely helped make a lot of concrete adjustments to my game.
So after giving my review a mulligan, I would say to take a workshop but be clear about what you really want out of it and remember that the real work comes after. I know for me those guys told me precisely what I didn't know but needed to hear about my pickup game AND my inner game.
Wednesday, November 9, 2011
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